are the resources we believe would be required to execute that strategy given the situation. >> rose: that was 60,000 troops. >> it was 40,000 foes. en entered ahanistann the summer of 2009, i don't think we needed more forces. and it was only through that summer i did a listing, i traveled around, i good a tremendous amount of analysis with my staff, and only when i saw the deteriorating situation and we went through what it would take to arrest what was viewed as taliban momentum, and to give ourselves a bridge force to give us time to build up afghan security forces did i reluctantly come to the conclusion we're going to need more western forces, probably mostly american. we ca up with detail anysisn wh we had to secure to be effective, and the requirement was for 40,000 forces. and so we recommended that which followed not long after our strategic assessment. >> rose: after the number of troops had already come in because of mckernen.